ABOUT  VOWS  AND  OATHS?

Someone  asked  me…..


My other question concerns Judges 11 where a man vowed to God, and his daughter needed to remain a virgin all of her life. I don't understand how he had the right to do this.  God never said that He accepted the vow.  Is that significant?  I remember when Saul made a foolish oath, and it almost killed Jonathan.  God never said that He accepted the oath, but He refused to answer Saul after Jonathan ate honey.  Still, neither Saul or Jonathan seem to have been punished or anything. Saul for breaking his oath by refusing to kill Jonathan, and Jonathan for eating the honey.


Lastly, is it a sin to cancel an oath?  Also, just because you made an oath, does that mean that God accepted it?


Answer:


Maybe God does not accept a stupid vow, I just cannot think  of  a  Scripture  verse  that  actually  says  that  is  so.


In  the  New  Testament  oaths  are  forbidden.  Matthew 5:33-37  and  JAMES 5:12.


OATHS  WERE  FOR  A  WEAK CARNAL  NATION....IT IS  A  LAW SUPERSEDED  BY  THE  NEW  TESTAMENT.


GET  BACK  TO JUDGES 11   AGAIN



Question:


Sure, but then why did Paul fulfill an oath in Acts?


Answer:


You are referring to Acts 18:18, and 21:17-24.


The Act 21 was to prove to all Jews [Christian believing Jews especially]  that while the Temple stood, you could still do things that involved the Priesthood and Temple.  What Paul was teaching was you could  STILL  DO  SUCH  TEMPLE THINGS,  IF  YOU WANTED,  BUT YOU  DID  NOT HAVE TO, AND  THEY  WERE AS NOTHING CONCERNING  SALVATION. It was not sin to do Temple stuff but some thought Paul was teaching that it was sin to do such things. They thought he was teaching that some of the laws of Moses were sin to do them, so not to do them. What Paul  taught was those laws involving the Temple, priests, animal sacrifices, did not have to be performed today, but while the Temple stood they could be done if you wanted to do them, but they had no bearing on salvation.

You mighty remember Paul had Titus with him in Jerusalem, and did not have to be circumcised [Gal.2:1-5]. And Paul had Timothy circumcised in Acts 16:3, not because it was still in effect but  because of the Jews…. as it is written, to please them. It was not wrong to circumcise you but did not have to under the New Testament.  It  was not a matter of salvation, some thought it was, hence they had to have an Acts 15, to clear the matter up.



Judges  11  and  the  vows????


Well  reading  it  as  given,  it  was  obviously  a  rash  vow, even  stupid.

It  does  seem  it  was carried  out.


There  are  some  things  hard  to  understand  in  the  Old Testament,  this is  obviously  one  of  them.


Is  there  more  to  it,  than  what  is  recorded?  Maybe "surely  it  be  the Lord's," "whatsoever  shall  come  from  the door  of  my  house.”


This taken to mean a literal house, seems rather odd, as He must have known only people were inside his house. His daughter was his only child. I presume he still had his wife, maybe  some servants.

Surely he did not have animals inside the house.

Now if "house" means his entire domain, maybe an animal might come up to him???

Some have thought the "burnt offering" was giving his daughter's virginity to God and never marrying.


Have  to  say  I  just  do  not  know.  I  do  not  like  to  think his  daughter was  literally  sacrificed.


Yes,  a  difficult  section  of  the  Bible.  Difficult  in  that  we do  not  want  to  think  his  daughter  was  sacrificed  by  him making  a  wrong  vow.


Will  have  to  wait  for  Jesus  to  return  and  get  the  full answer  to  a section  we  do  not want  to  think  was  acted out  in  a  literal  way.


What  we  have  to  keep  straight  is  vows  that  are  physical  in nature....the  vow  of  the  Nazarine  -  Numbers 6.  


And  "swearing vows"  this  being  what  Jesus  did  away with.  Swearing  vows  were like,  "I  vow  to  you  by  the Temple,  I  shall  repay  you  the  loan  of money  you  gave me."  Or  it  could  be,  "I  vow  to  you  by Jerusalem......" Or  "I  vow  to  you  by  the  stars  in  heaven....." Or  "I  vow  to  you  by  the  God  in  heaven......"


Jesus  said  such  verbal  vows  in  talking  were  now  to stop!  Hence no  swearing  vows  on  the  bible;  as  putting your  hand  on  the bible  and  saying,  "I  swear  to  tell  the truth  the  whole  truth  and nothing  but  the  truth."  Jesus taught  such  vowing  was  to  be  no more  for  Christians.


Physical  vows  like  the  Nazarine  vow [Num. 6]  could  be still  done while  the  Temple  stood. All  such  physical  vows coming  under  the Temple  rituals  could  be  done  IF  you wanted,  but  they  counted for  NOTHING  as  far  as salvation  was  concerned.  After  70  A.D. when  there  was no  temple,  all  those  physical  vows  came  to  an end.


Question:


Then could those vows be cancelled if you changed your mind?



Answer:


I give you the verses on vows/oats



FROM  VAVE'S  TOPICAL  BIBLE




VOWS. Mosaic Jaws concerning, Lev. 23:37,38; Num. 29:39. Must be voluntary, see below. Must be performed, see below. Estimation of the redemption price of things offered in vows, to be made by the priest, according to age and sex of the person making the offering, Lev. 27:1-13. The redemption price of the offering of real estate, to be valued by the priest, Lev. 27: 14,15; of a field, Lev. 27:16-25.


Edible things offered in, to be eaten the same day they were offered, Lev. 7:16-18. Things offered in, to be brought to the tabernacle or temple, Deut. 12:6,11,17,18,26; belonged to the priests, Num. 1&14.


Rash: By Jephthah, in consecration of his daughter as a sacrifice, if his campaign against the Ammonites were successful, Judg. 11:29-40; the Israelites, to destroy the Benjamites, Judg. 21:5,6, with chapters 20; 21.


Things forbidden to be offered in: Receipts of the whore and price of a dog, Deut. 23:18; a minor, of himself, Mark 7:11-13.


UNCLASSIFIED SCRIPTURES RELATING TO: 


Gen. 28:20. And Jacob vowed a vow, saying, If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on, 21. So that I come again to my father's house in peace; then shall the Lord be my God.   Gen. 31:13.


Lev. 5: 4. Or if a soul swear, pronouncing with his lips to do evil, or to do good, whatsoever it be that a man shall pronounce with an oath, and it be hid from him; when he knoweth of it, then he shall be guilty in one of these. 5. And it shall be, when he shall be guilty in one of these things, that he shall confess that he hath sinned in that thing; 6. And he shall bring his trespass offering unto the Lord for his sin which he hath sinned, a female from the flock, a lamb or a kid of the goats, for a sin offering; and the priest shall make an atonement for him concerning his sin. 7. And if lie be not able to bring a lamb, then he shall bring for his trespass, which he hath committed, two turtledoves, or two young pigeons, unto the Lord ; one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering. 8. And he shall bring them unto the priest, who shall offer that which 'is for the sin offering first, and wring off his head from his neck, but shall not divide it asunder. 9. And he shall sprinkle of the blood of the the rest of the blood shall be wrung out at the bottom of the altar: it is a sin offering. 10. And he shall offer the second for a burnt offering, according to the manner: and the priest shall make an atonement for him for his sin which he hath sinned, and it shall be forgiven him. 11. But if he be not able to bring two turtledoves or two young pigeons, then he that sinned shall bring for his offering the tenth part of an ephah of fine flour for a sin offering; he shall put no oil upon it, neither shall he put any frank incense thereon: for it is a sin offering. 12. Then shall he bring it to the priest, and the priest shall take his handful of it, even a memorial thereof, and burn it on the altar, according to the offerings made by fire unto the Lord : it is a sin offering. 13. And the priest shall make an atonement for him as touching his sin that he hath sinned in one of these, and it shall be forgiven him: and the remnant shall be the priest's, as a meat offering.


Lev. 22:18. Speak unto Aaron, and to his sons, and unto all the children of Israel, and say unto them, Whatsoever he be of the house of Israel, or of the strangers in Israel, that will offer his oblation for all his vows, and for all his freewill offerings, which they will offer unto the Lord for a burnt offering; 19. Ye shall offer at your own will a male without blemish, of the beeves, of the sheep, or of the goats. 20. But whatsoever hath a blemish, that shall ye not offer: for it shall not be acceptable for you, 21. And whosoever offereth a sacrifice of peace offerings unto the Lord to accomplish his vow, or a freewill offering in beeves or sheep, it shall be perfect to be accepted; there shall be no blemish therein. 22. Blind, or broken, or maimed, or having a wen, or scurvy, or scabbed, ye shall not offer these unto the Lord, nor make an offering by fire of them upon "the altar unto the Lord. 23. Either a bullock or a lamb that hath any thing superfluous or lacking in his parts, that may est thou offer for a freewill offering; but for a vow it shall not be accepted. 24. Ye shall not offer unto the Lord that which is bruised, or crushed, or broken, or cut; neither shall ye make any offering thereof in your land. 25. Neither from a stranger's hand shall ye offer the bread of your God of any of these; because their corruption is in them, and blemishes be in them: they shall not be accepted for you.


Num. 15-2. Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, "When ye be come into the land of your habitations, which 1 give unto you, 3. And will make an offering by fire unto the Lord, . . . sacrifice in performing a vow, or in a freewill offering, ... a sweet savour unto the Lord, of the herd, or of the flock: 4. Then shall he that offereth his offering unto the Lord bring a meat offering of a tenth deal of flour mingled with the fourth part of an hin of oil. 5. And the fourth part of an hin of wine for a drink offering shalt thou prepare with the burnt offering or sacrifice, for one lamb. 6. Or for a ram, thou shalt prepare for a meat offering two tenth deals of flour mingled with the third part of an hin of oil. 7. And for a drink offering thou shalt offer the third part of an hin of wine, fpr a sweet savour unto the Lord. 8. Andwhen thou preparest a bullock for aburnt offering, or for a sacrifice in performing a vow, or peace offerings unto the Lord: 9. Then shall he bring with a bullock a meat offering of three tenth deals of flour mingled with half an hin of oil. 10. And thou shalt bring for a drink offering half an hin of wine, for an offering made by fife, of a sweet savour unto the Lord. 11. Thus shall it be done for one bullock, or for one ram, or for a lamb, or a kid. 12. According to the number that ye shall prepare, so shall ye do to every one according to their number. 13. All that are born of the country shall do these things after this manner, in offering an offering made by fire, of a sweet savour unto the Lord. 14. And if a stranger sojourn with you, or whosoever be among you in your generations, and will offer an offering made by fire, of a sweet savour unto the Lord ; as ye do, so he shall do. 15. One ordinance shall be both for you of the congregation, and also for the stranger that sojourneth toith you, an ordinance for ever in your generations: as ye are, so shall the stranger be before the Lord. 16. One law and one manner shall be for you, and for the stranger that sojourneth with you.


Num. 30:2. If a man vow a vow unto the Lord, or swear an oath to bind his soul with a bond; he shall not break his word, he shall do according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth. 3. If a woman also vow a vow unto the Lord, and bind herself by a bond, being in her father's house in her youth; 4. And her father hear her vow, and her bond wherewith she hath bound her soul, and her father shall hold his peace at her: then all her vows shall stand, and every bond wherewith she hath bound her soul shall stand. 5. But if her father disallow her in the day that he heareth; not any of her vows, or of her bonds wherewith she hath bound her soul, shall stand: and the Lord shall forgive her, because her father disallowed her. 6. And if she had at all an husband, when she vowed, or uttered ought out of her lips, wherewith she bound her soul; 7. And her husband heard it, and held his peace at her in the day that he heard it: then her vows shall stand, and her bonds wherewith she bound her soul shall stand. 8. But if her husband disallowed her on the day that he heard it; then he shall make her vow which she vowed, and that which she uttered with her lips, wherewith she bound her soul, of none effect: and the Lord shall forgive her. 9. But every vow of a widow, and of her that is divorced, wherewith they have bound their souls, shall stand against her. 10. And if she vowed in her husband's house, or bound her soul by a bond with an oath; And her husband heard it, and held his peace at her, and disallowed her not: then all her vows shall stand, and every bond wherewith she bound her soul shall stand. But if her husband hath utterly made them void on the day he heard them; then whatsoever proceeded out of her lips concerning her vows, or concerning the bond of her soul, shall not stand: her husband hath made them void; and the Lord shall forgive her. 13. Every vow, and every binding oath to afflict the soul, her husband may establish it, or her husband may make it void. 14. But if her husband altogether hold his peace at her from day to day; then he establisheth all her vows, or all her bonds, which are upon her: he confirmeth them, because he held his peace at her in the day that he heard them, 15. But if he shall any ways make them void after that he hath heard them; then he shall bear her iniquity. 16. These are the statutes, which the Lord commanded Moses, between a man and his wife, between the father and his daughter, being yet in her youth in her father's house.   v, 1.


Deut, 23:18. Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog, into the house of the Lord thy God for any vow: for even both these are abomination unto the Lord thy God. 21. When thou shalt vow a vow unto the Lord thy God, thou shalt not slack to pay it: for the Lord thy God will surely require it of thee; and it would be sin in thee. 22. But if thou shalt forbear to vow, it shall be no sin in thee. 23. That which is gone out of thy lips thou shalt keep and perform; even a freewill offering, according as thou hast vowed unto the Lord thy God, which thou hast promised with thy mouth.


Job 22:27. Thou shalt make thy prayer unto him, and he shall hear thee, and thou shalt pay thy vows.


Psa. 22:25. My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation: I will pay my vows before them that fear him.


Psa. 50:14. Offer unto God thanksgiving; and pay thy vows unto the most High: 15. And call upon me in the day of trouble: I will deliver thee, and thou shalt glorify me.


Psa. 56:12. Thy vows are upon me, 0 God: I will render praises unto thee.


Psa, 61:5. Thou, O God, hast heard my vows: 8. So will I sing praise unto thy name for ever, that I may daily perform my vows.


Psa. 65:1. Praise waiteth for thee, O God, in Sion: and unto thee shall the vow be performed.


Psa. 66:13. I will go into thy house with burnt offerings: I will pay thee my vows, 14. Which my lips have uttered, and my mouth hath spoken, when I was in trouble.


Psa. 76:11. Vow, and pay unto the Lord your God: let all that be round about him bring presents unto him that ought to be feared.


Psa. 116:14. I will pay my vows unto the Lord now in the presence of all his people. 15. Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints. 16. O Lord, truly I am thy servant; I am thy servant, and the son of thine handmaid: thou hast loosed my bonds. 17. I will offer to thee the sacrifice of thanksgiving, and will call upon the name of the Lord. 18. I will pay my vows unto the Lord now in the presence of all his people, 19. In the courts of the Lord's house, in the midst of thee, O Jerusalem. Praise ye the Lord.


Prov. 20:25. It is a, snare to the man who devoureth that which is holy, and after vows to make enquiry.


Eccl. 5:4. When thou vowest a vow unto God, defer not to pay it; for he hath no pleasure in fools: pay that which thou hast vowed. 5. Better is it that thou shouldest not vow, than that thou shouldest vow and not pay. 6. Suffer not thy mouth to cause thy flesh to sin; neither say thou before the angel, that it teas an error: wherefore should God be angry at thy voice, and destroy the work of thine hands ?


Jonah 2:9. But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice of thanksgiving; I will pay that that I have vowed. Salvation is of the Lord.


Nah. 1:15. Behold upon the mountains the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace! O Judah, keep thy solemn feasts, perform thy vows: for the wicked shall no more pass through thee; he is utterly cut off.

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SOME  VOWS  COULD  BE  CANCELLED  UNDER  THE  CIRCUMSTANCES  GIVEN  ABOVE.


VOWS  AND  OATHS  ARE  NOT  TO  BE  DONE  UNDER  THE  NEW  TESTAMENT  AGE.  AND  THE  LAWS  OF  THE  LAND  GIVE  CHRISTIANS  THE  RIGHT  AND  FREEDOM  TO  “AFFIRM”  THIS  OR  THAT  ON  PAPER  AND  IN  A  COURT  ROOM.  I  HAVE  HAD  TO  DO  SO  ON  PAPER  AND  IN  A  COURT  ROOM  AS  A  WITNESS.


Keith Hunt