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Boeing 757 and Pentagon

On September 11th 2001

                           9/11 - A CONSPIRACY?

                   A BOEING 757 DID STRIKE THE PENTAGON

If you go to Google and type in "9/11 Pentagon Crash" you will
find the heading "A Boeing 757 Struck the Pentagon." The person
has done a remarkable amount of in-depth research on this event,
to prove that yes indeed, as was reported by just about all the
news of that day, a Boeing 757 did indeed strike the Pentagon on
September 11th 2001. The fellow has photos and clinks etc. and

I will not try to reproduce everything the researcher gives, for
you yourself can go and find all that is shown and proven to you
on that Website itself.

Let me say at the outset that the conspiracy buffs want to tell
you and even try to show you, that the hole in the Pentagon is
not large enough for a Boeing 757 and they give you a photo of a
Boeing 757 that hit an Apartment building in Europe, and created
a large hole.
Now anybody with some common sense and logic, as you look at the
two pictures they give you, will immediately see the Pentagon is
a much wider building than that Apartment building in Europe. The
two dynamics are totally different. And who knows what cement and
reinforcement was in the Apartment building, and what was in the
Pentagon. Now that is just a surface logic that anyone should be
able to ask themselves. 
There are other "things" the conspiracy geeks will bring up to
try and hold their position that the USA Government was either
fully behind the 9/11 attacks or allowed it to happen, so they
could go to war with Iraq and make sure the oil from the Middle
East kept flowing into America (and Iraq at the time, was not
trying to stop Eastern oil from reaching the USA), besides the
USA can get oil from Canada and a number of other countries,
besides its own huge milking of the oil in the Gulf of Mexico.
The "oil stuff" is also as wacky as the "conspiracy" to kill
3,000 or so Americans and others from different countries on the
attacks in the USA on 9/11.

Oil is on its way out; we are finally moving over to get off the
oil drug we have been on over the last 100 years. We are moving
into modern space-age technology that will see the end of, or a
greatly diminished use of the black gold as it has been called.

Well, back to this Website I've told you about and the person's
detailed study.

Page 1. The introduction where the author admits in his first
post on this subject there were mistakes. This post corrects
those mistakes.


The Boeing 757 is a midsized commercial airliner. The FAA has
classified the 757 as a "heavy aircraft" - the FAA places the 757
in the Geometric Desogn Classification IV, and an ATC Operation
Class C.

Tail Height: 44 ft 6 in
Length: 155 ft 3 in
Wingspan: 124 ft 10 in
Body Exterior Width: 12 ft 4 in
Fuel Capacity: 11,489 US gal
Maximum Takeoff weight: 255,000 lb 
Typical Cruise Speed: 0:80 Mach (573.6 mph/956 mh)
Engines used on 757: Two 166.4kN (37,400 lb) Rolls-Royce RB211-
535C turbofans, or 178.8kN (40,200 lb) RB211-535E4s or 193.5kN
(43,500 lb) PW32040s, or 189.5kN (42,600 lb) PW2043s.
Auxillary Power Unit: Honeywell GTCP331-200

The writer says:

"The Pentagon was designed in the early 40s and was completed in
only 16 months on Jan 14, 1943. The storage of materials required
for war production raised many design and construction problems.
The use of reinforced concrete in lieu of formed steel for the
building made possible a saving of 43,000 tons of steel, more
than enough to build a battleship. The use of concrete ramps
rather than elevators further reduced steel requirements.
Drainage pipes were concrete; ducts were fiver, interior doors
were wood. An unusual wall design - concrete spandels carried to
window sill level - eliminated many miles of through-wall copper

Recent renovations and upgrades to the building were nearing
completion on the side hit on 9/11 and performed reasonable well
considering they were not designed to withstand aircraft impact.
On September 11, when American Airlines Boeing 757 crashed into
the Pentagon, home of the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD), about
20,000 people were at work in this, the largest office building
in the world. Yet according to DoD casualty update on October 1,
only 125 Pentagon employees were killed along with the 64 from
the fated airliner (source - Architecture Week).

The exterior walls had been reinforced with steel beams and
columns, bolted where they met at each floor. Some of these
reinforced walls very near the point of impact remained in place
for a half hour before collapsing, allowing uncounted hundreds to
escape. 'Had we not undertaken this effort,' said Evey at a press
briefing on September 15, 'this could have been, much, much

Now, I'm sure everyone can agree that the above information is a
matter of public record, and none of it is incorrect, altered, or
misquoted in any way to support either side of the case. It is
all merely factual information that we will refer to in the
following sections.

(Note: I was unintentionally misleading in a previous post when I
said the Pentagon didn't use a steel beam construction - while
that is still true for the original design, it was reinforced in
various areas during the upgrading to include steel beams and
columns in some areas of the renovations).

Quoted from '':

In addition to major overhauls of the mechanical and electrical
systems, the Wedge One renovation included the fire sprinklers,
automatic fire doors, and the steel which saved many lives on the
day of the attack. The bast-resistant windows were nearly two
inches thick. Some of them remain remarkably intact and in place
adjacent the point of impact. Some were popped out of their
frames by the force of the exploding jet fuel, but they fell
without breaking or splintering.
Also on the exterior walls, between the steel columns, the
renovation crew had placed Kevlar cloth, similar to the material
used for bullet-proof vests. This had the effect of holding
together building materials so they wouldn't become deadly
projectiles in an explosion.' "

Going on with the words of the writer:

"Looking at the Big Picture

From the facts contained above, we can all agree that:

* The length of the outside wall on any side of the Pentagon is
921 feet.
* The wingspan of the 757 is 124 feet 10 inches.
*Now, everyone can agree that 921/125= roughly 7.4 right?

Given the size of the 757, and the size of the Pentagon, the
damaged area fits perfectly with the dimensions of both the
aircraft and the building.

Look at the whole in the building (a photo is given)

Here is the hole in the building - it's been reported by at least
a dozen different sources (including conspiracy theory sites) to
be a 16 to 20 foot hole. That is really interesting when you take
into account the fact that the 757 body is 12 ft 4 in wide and 13
ft 6 in high. (Here is where I was mistaken in the past, like so
very many others I was led astray by the HEIGHT of the aircraft,
which is actually the measurement from the wheel-down to the tip
of the tail. That measurement is for aircraft hangar clearance,
not the SIZE of the aircraft.) The 757 is basically a cylinder
that is 13 feet across. It then should not be surprising that it
would create something around a THIRTEEN FOOT hole in the side of
the building.

Look at the nose-on view of a 757 - you can see the body is
slightly less than 1/3 the size of the height of the aircraft.
The tail certainly isn't going to punch a hole in the front of
the Pentagon in any photos. A 40 foot object didn't hit it, a 13
foot object did.

Also, as I showed earlier: Here is an L!)!! (it's a larger plane
than a 757 - but the basic design of how a plane body is built is
the same) being scrapped, you can see (a photo is given) that
almost ALL of the support structure is in the bottom 2/5 of the
plane. This is the part that punched the hole in the Pentagon,
the rest of the thin, hollow, top of the plane just shredded into
chunks, some of which are laying on the lawn and around the
rescue vehicles. Most of a commercial airliner is just a thin
aluminium shell, insulation, a thin plastic inner liner, some
carpet and seats. They're designed to be as light as possible so
they can carry more cargo and more people while using less fuel
and at the same time remain 'safe.'

It is given that the majority of mass is going to be in the
bottom half of the aircraft - the primary structure and heaviest
parts are all located there, as is the luggage and any freight.

But let's reinforce this as fact with a photo of a 757 - 300
being built. (Remember, the only difference between a 757-200 and
a 757-300 is the length of the body, and the wings on the 757-300
are reinforced and slightly deeper - the height and width and
wingspan remain identical.)

We should also make a note of the yellow primer used on the
interior of the rear section.

This image (the writer gives links etc. on their Website) shows
the light green primer used on the primary structure components
in the 757 (Boeing uses the same yellow primer and the same green
primer on almost every single part of every single 757 and 767

What does the green or yellow primer have to do with anything?
Well, we'll take a look at the aircraft parts from the Pentagon
wreckage photos below.

Ok, but how did a hollow tube, made of mostly aluminium, manage
to punch through the Pentagon? I'm happy to try to help explain
it with the aid of the good folks at Perdue University. We'll get
to this in a moment.

Examining Ground Debris

Landing Gear Evidence

Rim photographed in the Pentagon wreckage. You can clearly see it
is a double bead design as required by the NTSB, and you can also
see it has had 90% of the rim smashed off in the crash.

Some people have tried to claim that the rims are different from
a 757 rim - well here is a 757-200 rim from an American Airlines
757, I've outlined the exact same symmetrical holes. I think
perhaps some people are thrown off by the balancing led weights
attached on the rims in the bottom photo? Have you ever taken
your car in for a wheel alignment and tire balancing? This is
clearly the same kind of rim found on a 757. (The hub-
covers/grease-covers are not present for obvious reasons - to
remove one you pop it off with a flathead screw driver ... so how
would you expect it to stay on in a 400mph impact with a
reinforced concrete wall?).

Landing gear strut - appears to be from a nose gear - note how
scarred the area around it is.

The next photo is from the cover from one of the conspiracy sites
that demand 'where is the plane?' .... they must not have looked
very hard, there are 2 obvious chunks of it in the photo. Another
rim from the airplane on the right, and a large chunk of bulkhead
on the left.

Below: More parts from inside the 757 - note the Boeing green
primer on 3 parts in this photo - two circled.

Below, another photo of a tire with the same pattern as ones used
on a 757, found in the Pentagon wreckage.

Engine Evidence

Let's take a look at some of the ground debris that appears to be
related to an aircraft engine. Many different sites and posts
have reported that the 757 uses Rolls-Royce engines [RB211-
535E4B] - however it should be noted, for the sake of
thoroughness, that American Airlines also use Pratt & Witney
engines [PW2037] in many of their 757 fleet. You can also view
this information on their website. (The 757 fleets around the
world actually use over six different kinds of engines.) The 757
that is reported to have hit the Pentagon was using RB211-535E4B

What is seen in the photo is most likely the APU (Aux Power Unit)
used in a 757 that is equipped with Rolls-Royce RB211 engines.
The APU (Honeywell GTCP331-200) is located in the tail section of
the aircraft (that's what the large vent that looks like a 3rd
engine is) as evidenced on this technical rescue reference aid
from Boeing. Boeing 757 reference website. 
These small turbine engines are quite common on modern turbine
and turbofan passenger aircraft, and are used to furnish ground
power while the main engines are shut down during ground
operations. An online training aid lets you Play around with the
controls on a 757/767 instrument panel.

There have been some people who claim that a Global Hawk was what
hit the Pentagon. Here is what John W. Brown, spokesman for
Rolls-Royce (Indianapolis), had to say about the part in the
photo above. 'It is not a part from any Rolls Royce engine that
I'm familiar with, and certainly not the AE 3007H made here in
Indy.' (Of course it wouldn't be anything he's familiar with,
it's a powerplant made by Honeywell.) The AE 3007 engines are
used in small commuter jets such as the Cessna Citation; the AE
3007H is also used in the military's unmanned aircraft, the
Global Hawk. The Global Hawk is manufactured by Northrop Grumma's
subsidiary Ryan Aeronautical, which it acquired from Teledyne, July 1999.
A detailed view of what the turbofan that powers the Global Hawk
is like - I'm sure you can see it's too small to be anything in
the picture contained here or anywhere else in the Pentagon crash
evidence. Also visible in this photo, one of the 757's blue
passenger seats to the left of the turbine, and possibly a 2nd
seat above the other seat.

Below is a significant portion of a badly smashed RB211 engine in
the Pentagon wreckage - what appears to be the diffusor section
of the compressor, one of the pumps remains partially attached,
some hose and the familiar webbed wire wraps 9 to the right of
the main ring) and some of the Boeing yellow primed support
structure is lying beside it (left, with rivets - again: note the
yellow primer, we'll cover that further down).

Reference: Image of the engine used on the 757 (its the rightmost
one, top row) Rolls-Royce

Another engine part, bottom right.

Below: Evidence of the right engine impact on the side of the
building is evident on the large pillar being sprayed with fire
retardant. (click photo for huge version).

The hit lightpoles, and damaged vehicles in the flightpath (click
for larger images)

The debris field of small chunks of plane, witnesses said debris
'rained down for minutes after the crash.' (click for larger

The wreckage with the markings (click to view original enlarged

Some people have said, 'Yeah but how big is it?' (Again some
people have a hard time judging distance in a photo without a
reference object - well, here's a reference object - a 3/4 ton
truck driving behind it.

We can see that the part is approximately 3.5 to 4 feet long; the
truck has either a 17 inch or an 18 inch wheel as a reference and
is about 2 feet behind it; only cars or light trucks have 14, 15
and 16 inch wheels. I think it's conservative to say that the
part is 2 times as long as the truck's tire (36 inches).

Here is another angle of the exact same piece in question -
notice the people standing off to the right of it. More
importantly, notice all the other of the small bits of the
aircraft laying around.

Both (large) Photos by Journalist 1st Class Mark D. Faram.

Even the black boxes have been recovered, the reason given for
not playing the flight voice recorder for the media was that it
wouldn't serve any use other than to cause more emotional pain to
the family members (I agree with them frankly).

Area of fence to the right of the impact area partially flattered
by the right engine of the plane. Note now a couple of the poles
are bent right over, some are sheered off at the top, yet the
pole and fence portion on the left is untouched (obviously the
right engine took out the fence to the right of those poles) and
the entire back side of the fence has been torn away. The
generator was hit by the right-wing and the engine before the 757
hit the building - the damage is evidenced by other photos of the
crash area.

Closeup of the generator smashed in the front and gouged on the
top - hard to image a missile accomplishing both of these. But if
the right engine of a 757 hit the front of the generator, part of
the wing could gouge the top. At the very least, something very
large, and very heavy smashed into this extremely heavy diesel

Click the image on the left to view a large top-down image of the
impact area, including the large diesel generator which is
visibly damaged, and actually spun - 45 degrees from the impact!
Most importantly it is spun - 45 degrees TOWARDS the building -
if this was a missile or a bomb, the explosion could ONLY have
spun it AWAY from the building.

How could a missile or a Global Hawk have moved this large heavy
generator towards the Pentagon? Only something large and heavy,
such as the starboard (right) engine of the 757 could have done
An explosion from a bomb or missile could have only moved it away
from the building and not towards it!

The Gate Camera

Some people don't seem to see perspective correctly. I've zoomed
in, and compared the two frames over and over - here is what I
see as the airplane. I will repeat, however, that this is
terrible evidence due to the horrible quality of the original
images. I do believe, however, that the white smoke in the images
is caused by one or more damaged engines from the impact with the
multiple light poles on the way in (as seen in the above image).

I stuck in a 757 that was relatively the same angle - except it
was banking to the port, it would fit perfectly ... However, once
again - this is entirely subjective and the image quality from
the released surveillance camera is not good to form a factual

Let's look at the Physics involved 

Engineers, computer scientists and graphics technology experts at
Purdue University have created the first available simulation
that uses scientific principles to study in detail what
theoretically happened when the Boeing 757 crashed into the
Pentagon September 11th.

Using simulation software called LS-Dyna, the smart folks use the
physically accurate simulation results as input to animations and
visualizations to produce a vivid reenactment of the impact of
the aircraft on the Pentagon building and provide the larger team
with necessary data to construct these using 3D Studio Max,
AutoCAD, and research tools.

Now we can see, through a very competent and valid simulator,
what happened in the attack on the Pentagon. Click here to view
the video generated by the simulator. Or, click here to read the
white paper.

In layman's terms the crash dynamics worked like so: A large
hollow tube, with a belly full of luggage, a passenger bay with
60 people, and wings full of fuel smashed into the side of an
almost solid object while moving at a tremendous speed (somewhere
around 350-400 mph). When the 225,000 lb+ plane hit, it smashed
apart with such force from the crash that it became like one
massive column of liquid (no, the plane didn't melt or turn into
liquid, it just acted like one physically - mountainslides act
the same way, a million tons of rock acts like a large field of
liquid during a landslide even if no water is present). All the
small parts, luggage, people, seats, and all the tens of
thousands of pounds of fuel acting like a massive river came
crashing into the wall of the Pentagon. This force burst through
the outside wall and flowed through the inside to the next wall,
and the momentum carried this mass until it finally ran out of
inertia at the 3rd ring.

Plane hitting WCT (another example of crash fluid dynamics) -
RealAudio Required - note how the 767 'liquifies' and flows
through the WTC tower.

Please do read the information on the Perdue website yourself - I
don't do it justice with my one paragraph of paraphrasing!

Pentagon photo taken by satellite on 9/07/01 -- Pentagon photo
taken by satellite on 9/12/01
(click either image for larger version) Source: Space Imaging"

End Quoting

The writer then gives you a number of eye-witness testimonies.

I have only produced for you the written words of the author, all
photos etc. to see, then you must go to this Website I've quoted

I will give you the author's conclusion to the matter:



I highly doubt that local firefighters would be involved in any
sort of a coverup. I highly doubt that local police officers
would be involved in any sort of government cover up. Cops and
firemen are just average Joes like you and me, who go home to the
wife and kids, and just try to make a living and have a good life
for their families (I have many friends in both professions - of
course the firemen are usually more stable marriage-wise because
of their jobs, but that does not make the cops any less human
than you or I). The men and women who pulled over hundred people
(dead and alive) out of that building would more than not have
noticed somebody carrying over 60 bodies into the middle of the
fire they were fighting. To say that the plane that hit the
Pentagon was not filled with every single person who died in this
terrorist attack (not counting the unfortunate people inside the
building) is one thing and one thing only - IGNORANT!

(Let me add, as I've done before - it would also mean HUNDREDS OF
PEOPLE had to be "paid off" "bribed" - brought in on the
"conspiracy" - names invented - friends, loved ones, invented,
people seeing it, people helping out as the writer said, from
cops to firemen, to the clean-up crew, to so many that would have
to bought off to remain silent, to lie, to pretend, to make out
they were friends and relatives and co-workers, and school
buddies, to all that the government is supposed to have conspired
to the rest of the world, that died in the Pentagon attack. If
this idea by SOME that this was all a conspiracy, was not so
MOVIE IDEAS OF ALL TIME!! The whole conspiracy idea is a TOTAL
CRACK-UP!! It is as wild and crazy as the THREE STOOGES were wild
and crazy - I grew up watching the Three Stooges, I have some of
their shows on the DVDs recently produced - Keith Hunt)

Well ..... back to the author and:


Review the Facts

Size of 757 matches the initial size of hole in the building -
somewhere between 13 and 16 feet (757 is 13 feet wide/high

Rims found in building match those of a 757

Small turbine engine outside is an APU

Same engine has been clearly stated to NOT match a Global Hawk

Blue seats from 757 laying on ground in photos

Part of "American" fuselage logo visible in more than 1 photo

Engine parts photographed inside match a Rolls-Royce RB211

Structural components photographed in wreckage match Boeing paint
primer schemes

Large diesel engine in front of building hit by large heavy

Large diesel engine outside is spun TOWARDS the building - could
not be result of bomb blast or missile explosion

Multiple eye witnesses say they saw an airplane

Multiple eye witnesses say they saw an airplane hit the Pentagon

60+ bodies, matching the passenger list and flight crew roster
identified and returned to families from Pentagon wreckage

You cannot dispute the facts, a 757 hit the Pentagon killing
everyone on board and many inside the building. It was a
terrorist attack and the only fault with the government here is
with their failure to prevent it.

End Quote

The LOGISTICS of trying to pull off a cover-up and unnumbered
lies from dozens upon dozens of people, down to all the
relatives, friends, neighbors, co-workers, the owners of American
Airlines, the investigative reporters, locally and nationally, is
not only an unattainable enterprise to contemplate, let alone to
literally try to produce, that it is also just simply WACKY - AS

For those who question how a pilot could possibly fly such a
plane and hit the Pentagon. The pilot was trained very well, he
was skilled. Secondly, when you KNOW you are going to die, when
you are planning to die, and you are a fanatic to take as many
with you as you can, you can do things that the normal sane pilot
would never in their wildest dreams ever think of doing.

It's like the gunman who is going to kill as man others as he
can, before killing himself; their daring and insane ability to
shoot and kill is sadly to say, so high pitched in mind and
nerves, that they do indeed kill many others as they kill

If you are a skilled pilot with all the space-age tech stuff in
the cock-pit cabin, that is used to land one of those Boeing 757,
then it's really not hard to land and hit a massive wall as the
Pentagon building puts in front of you. It would be like coming
down on a runway except you come to a sudden stop!!

I ain't done yet with this "conspiracy" stuff - I have more to
come. More "conspiracy" arguments to answer.

Keith Hunt

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