In Search of... The Origin of Nations


by Craig White


CHAPTER NINE: 


THE PEOPLES OF CHINA AND SOUTH-EAST ASIA

Very broadly speaking, the races of the Orient may be divided into three main sub-races: the eastern Turkic peoples of Central Asia, the peoples of China and Japan and the nations and peoples of southeast Asia.

Who are the Chinese? What have they to do with an ancient prophecy found in the little understood book of Ezekiel concerning Gog and Magog? It seems that everyone has heard that they are in Asia ... but where specifically? And why do scholars not attempt to prove that Gog and Magog are today in Asia?

UPON COMPLETION OF THIS CHAPTER, THE READER WILL KNOW:

* who the Chinese are

* that there are various nations extant within mainland China

* that the south-east Asians are descended from Japheth

* that there were both western and eastern mutations of Kittim

Earliest China

According to Chinese sources, the first prehistoric dynasty is said to be the Xia (roughly from 21st to 16th century BC). Little proof was found until 1928 when excavations were undertaken at bronze-age sites at Anyang, Henan Province. Further excavations in the 1960s and 1970s, by archaeologists who uncovered tombs, urban sites and various bronze implements proved that the Xia civilization did indeed exist where the ancient historical texts claimed it was located. It seems that the Xia was probably an interim stage between the late neolithic cultures and the Shang dynasty with its urban centres.

Archaeological findings in the Huang He, Henan Valley has provide absolute evidence to the existence of the Shang dynasty.

Although mythology has crept into Chinese history, like all national histories, we know for certain that Chinese history properly commences with the Shang c 1700-1027 BC in northern China. It is they who made the first astronomical observations in China.937 The Shang had an actual script, not just picture-writing, made and cast bronze, had glazed pottery and even had the wheel. The Shang civilization was largely based on agriculture, animal husbandry and also hunting. Their warriors protected themselves with helmets, body armour and shields. They also regarded other surrounding peoples as "barbarians".

According to tradition, the Shang was founded by a rebel leader who overthrew the Xia. Inscriptions found on tortoise shells and flat cattle bones show that they developed writing at that time. They also knew bronze metallurgy and possessed tremendous craftsmanship with bronze, all attesting to a great civilization.

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937. Langer 1968:56

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Aligned with the Shang were the Yi from southern China, which included Black peoples. Yi means 'great bowmen" which may be a recollection of'Nimrod, the mighty hunter'.

Waddell, an expert in the area of ancient writing and scripts makes mention of how the Chinese owe their civilization, at least in part, to the Indo-Europeans in the Mesopotamian region. He says that the Chinese appear to have been influenced by the early Persian and Greek art.938

Professor Elliott Smith wrote:


"At a very early date both India and China were diversely influenced by Babylonia ... There can be no doubt that the Chinese dragon is the descendant of the early Babylonian monster and that the inspiration to create it reached Shensi during the 3rd millennium

B.C.“939

Unfortunately there is, to this time, "a disappointing lack" of skeletal material for archaeological anthropologists to work on940 and there is no absolute evidence that Indo-Europeans directly influenced the Shang, but the supporting data gives this theory credence.

It appears that the Chinese people around the Yellow River may be, at least in part, descended from the Shang. The Shang may have intermarried over time with for these people from a different group extending up into Manchuria. They are taller on average that the typical Chinese, have longer heads, less flat faces and narrower noses.941 It is quite possible that the Shang intermarried into the eastern branch of Tarshish. But they, being a small ruling class, probably would not have overly influenced the racial composition of the north-eastern Chinese type.

Professor Terrein de Lacouperie wrote of the similarities in beliefs, institutions, astronomy and medicine of the Babylonians and the Chinese: "the canals and artificial waterways of China suggest a striking likeness to the canals with ... Babylonia."942 Another source comments on the resemblances between Babylonian and Chinese pottery:

"The discovery of such pottery in China created a sensation among European archaeologists. The manner of its manufacture, its general appearance ... all recalled the pottery found on Neolithic and early Bronze Age in Eastern Europe and Western Asia ... At Susa, at Ur ... Interesting speculations were at once suggested. Was China after all connected with the Near East in its very early days? ... Was there a common origin for the Neolithic inhabitants of both extremities of the Asiatic continent?"943


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938. Waddell 1929:509. See his Aryan Origin of the Alphabet.

939. Smith: pp 102, 95

940. Baker 1974: 579

941. Baker 1974: 538

942. quoted in China by Prof K.Douglas

943. Discovery. A Monthly Journal of Knowledge, Dec 1976. Roy Hales, 1983:4 agrees. Another, Kiang Kang His wrote:

"... the identity of a great body of astronomical lores and astrological superstitions, the use of methods of measurements, the cycle of sixty and decimal system, the belief in inter-relation and correspondence of five elements, of five colors and the harmony of numbers, together with a multitude of other customs on the part of both the Chinese and Chaldeans cannot be explained as merely co-incidence." (Hsi 1935:5). Potts (ND: 23) states: "Others assert that their original home was in Babylonia on the great Euphrates plain, and that they derived many of the elements of their civilization from the ancient Chaldeans".

Adshead 1995: 21-47 demonstrates similar ancient contacts:

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Like all peoples, the Chinese were indeed extant in Mesopotamia soon after the flood, prior to migrating inexorably eastward.

Ancient Magog

It was during the Blitz that the famous Gog and Magog effigies were removed from the Guildhall, London, to prevent them from being destroyed. This these effigies were carved in 1708 by Richard Saunders after the original pair were destroyed in the Fire of London, 1666.

It was in on 9th November, 1951, that Sir Winston Churchill presented a noted speech at the Guildhall at the Lord Mayor of London's Banquet. The occasion marked the restoration of Gog and Magog effigies to their original sites in the Guildhall.

"It seems that they [Gog and Magog] represent none too badly the present state of world politics. World politics, like the history of Gog and Magog, are very confused and much disputed. Still, I think there is room for both of them. On the one side is Gog, and on the other is Magog. But be careful, my Lord Mayor, when you put them back, to keep them from colliding with each other; for if that happens, both Gog and Magog would be smashed to pieces and we should all have to begin all over again and begin from the bottom of the pit."944

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"In the history of the draft horse, there is a discontinuity between the heavy horse cart, the new version of the oxcart, found in Mesopotomia in the third Millennium BC and in the Kazakh steppe in the second millennium, used primarily for transportation, and the light horse chariot which came into use for hunting, war and high-speed travel, right across Eurasia from the seventeenth century BC onwards. The new vehicles were not only lighter and more specialized in use, but they had two spoked wheels instead of four solid ones and their draft animal was always the horse, generally a pair of horses, never the ox, onager or mule. War chariots required a specialized technology to build and operate. They were the product of palace workshops and the weapon of court aristocracy for whom war was a militarized hunt - between equals in ritual combat, or between unequals in relentless slaughter. Since the complex of chariot, palace and warrior aristocracy is not found in the steppe by Soviet archaeology and since the earliest mention of light war chariots in the West associates them with the Kassites and the Mitanni, people with at least Indo-European leadership, it may be supposed that the new chariot was invented by the Indo-Europeans as they left the steppe and entered the sedentary world as an army. The most likely place is the Merv-Herat region, a known area of early Indo-European penetration, a central point for the rapid diffusion of the chariot east and west, and a locality where Bactrian camels were probably already harnessed to light vehicles. Further, in 1275 BC, Hattusili III wrote to the Kassite ruler of Babylon asking for large horses for his chariots as his own horses were small. This use of the great horse suggests a central Asian origin for the chariot and it may be that it was the Kassites who introduced the great horse from Ferghana to Nisaea. From Merv-Herat the light chariot spread to China. The closeness in dates, the structural similarity between the chariot of the Shang dynasty and the Indo-European chariot, and the absence of a previous history of the draft horse in China, make independent invention unlikely.

"Once invented and borrowed, however, the chariot was developed into a superior machine by the Chinese. First, they invented the quadriga. The earliest Indo-European war chariots were drawn by two horses only, as is made plain by Rameses Il's account of the battle of Kadesh. The four-horse chariot is not definitely found in the West until the reign of Tiglath-Pileser III, 744-727 BC. In China, on the other hand, the four is taken for granted in the Shijing which dates back to 1000 BC. Second, probably as a consequence of the greater speed and better lock of the quadriga, the Chinese improved the wheels of the chariot, making them larger, giving them more spokes and, for additional strength, inclining them onto the hub instead of setting them straight, what is known as 'dishing'. This invention too was transmitted west in an attenuated form during the Assyrian new empire. Third, in the fourth century BC, the Chinese substituted for the unsatisfactory yoke and throat harness derived from the ox, which half-strangled the horse and reduced its tractive power to a third or quarter of its potential, the specifically equine shafts and breast-strap harness which is the precursor of the modern shafts and collar harness. At a blow the Chinese doubled or trebled their horsepower. Although. China had fewer horses than the West, she utilized them more effectively. Her chariots were larger and faster and their use in war lasted half a millennium longer than in the West. The Hou Honshu notes smaller chariots as one of the distinguishing marks of the Roman world, for, unlike the quadriga and the dished wheel, shafts and breast-strap harness were not borrowed by the West until after 400 AD." [emphasis mine] 944 The Times, London, 10 November 1951

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How insightful of Sir Winston Churchill.

Let us now note the usage of the word "Scythian" in relation to Magog - there was more than one nation of people known as Scythians945. In the first century Josephus noted:

"Magog founded those that from him were named Magogites, but who by the Greeks called Scythians"946

The descendants of Magog then, formed a branch of the eastern Scythians. Pliny, a noted Roman writer of early Christian times, said "Hierapolis taken by the Scythians, was afterward called Magog"947 Of these Scythians Rawlinson wrote of one branch of them:

"Pouring through the passes of the Caucasus - whence coming or what intending none knew - horde after horde of the Scythians blackened the rich plains of the south. On they came like locusts, countless, irresistible, finding the land before them like a garden, leaving behind them a howling wilderness. Neither age nor sex would be spared. The inhabitants would be ruthlessly massacred by the invaders, or at best, forced to become slaves The crops would be consumed, the herds swept off or destroyed, the villages or homesteads burned, the whole country made a scene of desolation"948.

The Scythians were barbarian people - extremely cruel and terrible to the conquered tribes and races. In 584 BC they were at last driven out of Anatolia and sent back into the vast areas north of the Caucasus. When residing in the Middle East in the early centuries after the flood, Magog was always closely identified with Mushki and Tabali949 and moved in Asia in advance of them.

The Assyrians called them Mat Gugi (Ma-Gog) which means "the country of Gog". Until fairly recently the people of the Caucasus called their mountains, Gog and the highest points Magog. Let Milner, famous for his writings on the Japhetic races, add further to our understanding:


“Magog, as a geographical term used by Hebrews of old and Arabs to-day (Majaj), denoted that vast stretch of country to the north of the Black Sea, Caucasus, Caspian Sea,

Hindu Kush, and Altai, known to the the Greek geographers as Skythia” 950

Following is a quote from another work of Milner Russia Japhet, long out of print

"From the high-lands of Pamir, in the heart of central Asia, whereon, according to the arguments of some of the earlier chapters of this treatise, the Japhetic races grew into national existence, an easy highway leads to-wards the eastern half of Asia. The Tarim river, whose valley this route would follow ... loses itself on the edge of the Gobi desert. The basin of this river, forming a broad expanse between the Tia-shan mountains on the North and the range of Kuenlum to southward, is one continual camping ground. Where those mountain barriers end begins the country called Mongolia, the original home of the Mongol race.


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945. Kachur 1975:1-2

946. Josephus Antiquities 1:6:2

947. Quoted in Cumming 1864

948. Quoted in Halley 1965:310

949. Barton-Payne 1973:367

950. Milner 1883


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The word Mongolian is one which is frequently used to denote the whole population of inner and northern Asia. At the outset we must carefully define a term like this. The type of race so often, called in manuals of ethnology 'Mongolian', let us designate by the term 'Turanian' - the signifance of which is co-extensive with the scriptural, 'Japhetic' ... 'Mongol' must be reserved as the title of that race which, however far afield it may since have wandered, issued from the territory distinctively designated 'Mongolia' " 951

The term Mongol, sometimes written as Mongoul, appears to be directly derived from Magog. In India, for example, Mongol becomes Moghul and a large part of China was known as Mangi when Europeans first visited it. The Arabs called the Scythian tribes of Tartary Yajuj and Majuj which is Gog and Magog952 and the Great Wall of China as the "wall of al Magog".953

Marco Polo, Venetian traveller to the Orient, in the thirteenth century AD, knew that Mungul or Mongol was part of the peoples of Magog. He further understood 'Gog and Magog' to be the names of 'Ung and Mungu' in China954.

Where is Magog located today? They migrated via southern Russia to their current homeland, leaving behind such place-names as: Mogilev city, Mogiolistan, Mugojar Mountains, Mogol-Tau Mountains. Among the people of Mongolia, Inner Mongolia, central and much of northern and southern China (by no means all of northern or southern China) and even some Japanese are also descended from Magog. Here are the hundreds of millions of China today. No wonder the name of ancestor Japhet, means "expansion", implying a large or expanding race. Other peoples descended from Magog include the Eskimos and Aleuts whose facial physiognomy is very similar to the Chinese955 and the Samoyeds (Nentsi) who, although having adopted the Finnic language, are Mongoloid by race.956 Some American Indians, on the west of the continent and scattered in South America, also descend from Magog.

We also find the Maghs and the town of Mogok in Burma, as well as the Mogadok Mountain and the Mogaung river. A tribe known as the Magars live in Nepal. The Lapps are undoubtedly descended, in part, from Magog, while some have mixed with Riphath and in several places appear almost Caucasian957. The Lapps were originally called Finns, thus the confusion caused in some books in referring to the Whites of Finland as Finns. They are totally different peoples. One of the rules in studying this type of subject is to understand that ancient nations do not necessarily keep their original name; and sometimes other nations acquire the names of the very nations they displace.

In the fifth to the third centuries BC, northern China was divided into several separate kingdoms, constantly battling for supremacy. The Qin or Ch'n controlled the western parts and this may be the origin of the name China. This dynasty was succesful in unifying almost all of China by 221BC. The impact of marauding Mongols restored power to the Han dynasty which stayed in power until

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951. Milner l886:chll

952. Jones 1807 vol 1: 94. See also the Qumran 21:96.

953. Haddon (1912:32) wrote: "... it has been stated that in the regions of north Elam, Bak tribes, ancestors of the Chinese, learned the elements of Babylonian and Elamite culture". FH Pott in Sketch of Chinese History wrote:

"The origin of the Chinese is shrouded in obscurity. Some suppose that the ancestors of the Chinese first lived in the territory south of the Caspian Sea and migrated eastward somewhere about the 23rd century B.C. Others assert that their original home was in Babylonia on the great Euphrates plain".

954. Polo Travels: 87

955. Stewart 1973:132

956. Ripley 1899:360

957. see photographs of these Lapps in Olsen 1981:38-45


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220AD. Aftter the end of this dynasty, three kingdoms arose, the most northerly found itself exposed to the aggression of the Turkics and others.

By the sixth century, the Sui reunited China and the Great Wall was reconstructed. About 400 years later the Sung dynasty took over almost all of China with the exception of the north which fell to the terrible Genghis Khan (= Perfect Lord) in the thirteenth century. He was first known as Temudshin and somehow managed to unite the various Mongolian, Turkic, Tartar, Uighur and Kirghiz tribes. His hordes swept all before them, conquering the Indus, the Euphrates region, the Caucasus and the Black Sea lands. In 1233AD he encountered Russian troops and moved relentlessly westwards. Various descendants of his attempted to conquer all of Europe, but failed at the last moment in two cases, due to the sudden death of their leader. But it was left to his grandson, Kublai Khan, to conquer most of China and to establish a Mongol dynasty with its capital at Beijing. Under the Mongols, four classes were established:


* the Mongol elite

* Turkic peoples, Moslems of the Near East and other Mongols

* The northern Chinese Han

* The southern Chinese which they regarded as 'barbarians"

Over 300 years later the Ming succesfully organised a rebellion against the Mongol rulers and drove them out, establishing their capital at Nanking and later returning it to Beijing. They were in turn overthrown by the Ching dynasty which originated in Manchuria.

Today China has almost 1.3 billions. Yet according to a census of China about IAD comprising almost all of the area which is today still known as China, she had 60 million inhabitants. Although it is thought that this figure may have been underestimated as there were advantages in not being counted.

As a side interest, the Chinese gave the world ice cream. Marco Polo first makes mention of this during his travels of the thirteenth century. In the cities of China were found persons wearing robes of the finest silk, eating from beautiful porcelain dishes. And in the streets were bare-legged vendors carrying containers on yokes across their shoulders. They sold dishes of ice cream to both passers-by and householders. From what can be ascertained, this ice cream was a hard-packed snow and ice from nearby mountains and mixed with fruit juice or milk.

Today, China, although inhabited in the main by descendants of Magog, also includes some descendants of Gomer, Javan and Edom. The reader may find The Forgotten Tribes of China by Kevin Sinclair of interest in this area of study.

See Genesis Chronology according to the Miao People of South China at the end of this chapter. Another excellent article dealing with the above is Archaeology, The Bible and the Post-Flood Origins of Chinese History by Roy Hales and God's Promise to the Chinese by Ethel Nelson which demonstrates that the ancient Chinese must have possessed knowledge of sacred history which found its way into their written language.

The Peoples of Kittim

Kittim, Chittim or Akita, was a son of Javan, but I include him in this section for reasons which will soon become self evident. Josephus says that Cyprus was called Kition by the Greeks. Its inhabitants

were called Kitieis and Kittoaeans958. The Egyptians called them Kheta and the Greeks Ketei. The Phoenicians named them Kt or Kty. One branch still lives in Cyprus. Many of them lived in Asia Minor and were associated with the sons of Heth and the Indo-European Hittites. At least three or four peoples were known as Hittites in the Middle East in the pre-Christian times959. Thus the confusion between the Hittites (also called Catti) and the Khittites (also called Chittim)960.

Professor Sayce reveals that certain of the Hittites had yellow skins961. The Egyptian monuments show at least two types of Hittites. One with a yellow skin, high cheek-bones, oblique eyes and pigtail hair.962 The other looked somewhat like the earliest Greeks who were Indo-European.963 The famous Arthur Koestler mentions that the early Hittites were dark-skinned (that is, in comparison to their Indo-European invaders) and probably of the Mongoloid branch of mankind964. John Beddoe writes similarly in his book The Anthropological History of Europe965. One possible reason for Kittim being called Khitti or Hittites is because they descended from lap-heth.


These particular Hittites wore upturned shoes, high boots, peaked caps and hair worn in pig-tails966 like the Mongoloid peoples of eastern Asia.967 So, where would you guess Kittim is located today?


While China was called Shinas anciently (the Romans called it Seres Sinenses) derived from Tsins or Tsina by those approaching from the south,968  it was called Cathay or Khitay by those approaching from the North969 after the people living there. The Russians called the land and people Khitai and the Latins named it Cathay, applying it to the whole country. The Arabs even called the Chinese arrows Alkhatai970.

Many peoples of Manchuria and north-eastern China, then, are descendants of Kittim. The Chinese of the north-east are tall and fairly dolicocephalic; while the average Chinese descended of Magog are shorter, darker and brachycephalic. Those in the deep south are very dark and related to the South-East Asians971. These Khitan in Manchuria, ruled northern China and Mongolia from Manchuria. They established the famous Liao dynasty (907-1125AD). Of further interest is that a tribe called the Khata dwelt in western China972 and a nomad tribe of Mongols was known as the Kara-Kitai.973

The Japanese are related to this north-eastern stock through Javan, their forefather    as we saw in a previous chapter. Anthropologists puzzle over how some of these Chinese look similar to the

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958. Josephus Antiquities 1:6:1; Douglas 1972:701

959. Wiseman 1973:197

960. Custance for example confuses the two on page 210 of his work

961. Sayce 1888:42

962. In his Myths of Babylonia, Donald Mackenzie noted: "One of the racial types among the Hittites wore pigtails ... It has been suggested that these wearers of pigtails were Mongolians. But although high cheek bones and oblique eyes occurred in ancient times, and still occur, in parts of Asia Minor ... [these] must not be confused with the ... Mongols of north-eastern Asia." (page 265) Mackenzie obviously did not realise what he had stumbled across.

963. Barton 1933:90-91

964. Koestler 1976:164

965. Beddoe 1912:82

966. Childe 1926:78, 114; Custance 1975:104

967. Childe 1926:28

968. Boulger 1878:17

969. ibid:18;Condercl900:51

970. Custance 1975:211

971. Huxley 1974:159. Some in the south mixed with Australoids anciently.

972. Jones, The Works, vol 1: 100

973. Wendt 1958: 178; Coates 1951: 28

974. ibid:160


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Mediteranean peoples975. Anthropologists gasp and wonder, yet the answer to this 'problem' has been in the Bible, God's Word, for thousands of years. All we need to do is seek and find.

The Kittim In Prophecy

In the book of Daniel, in the eleventh chapter, we find an account of Antiochus Epiphanes IV, a type of the Beast, being attacked by Roman ships from Chittim or Cyprus (168 BC) (Dan 11:30). But prophecy is dual - what has occurred in the past, will yet again occur in the future. Today Kittim is in China, and this prophecy, being dual, refers to them:

"For the ships of Chittim [China] shall come against him: Therefore he [the Beast]- shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant.

But tidings out of the east and out of the North [Russia] shall trouble him: therefore he [the Beast] shall go forth with great fury to destroy ..."(Dan 11:30,44).

A little known and seldom-mentioned prophecy in the book of Numbers has a similar message:

"And ships shall come from the coast of Chittim, and shall afflict Asshur, and shall afflict Eber". (Num 24:24)


Terrible times and great conflicts will soon bedevil our planet earth. Alliances of nations will rise up and devour other nations. Killings and slaughters are about to be unleashed upon an unsuspecting world; a world that is growing accustomed to expect a time of peace in a New World Order, will find that shockingly cruel wars will be the order of the day instead.

The Mongoloids of South-East Asia

Let us now tackle the true origins of the nations and peoples of South-east Asia. Gomer was the eldest son of Japheth and the father of three sons: Ashkenaz, Ripath and Togarmah. I shall discuss each of these sons, but before I do, Gomer himself needs to be discussed. Gomer was the Gamir or Gimirrai of the Assyrians and a part of the Cimmerians or Kimmerioi of the Greeks976. What this should inform any evolutionist or athiest, is that even if one rejects the Bible, one cannot reject the Nations of Genesis chapter ten for their names are all preserved in history. The Armenians called Cappadocia Gamir, after them977. The expansion of peoples in the Middle East forced them northwards over the Caucasus into southern Russia - the Ukraine, centred on the Dniester, but they were later driven out by the Greeks978.

The Jewish traditions have the descendants of Gomer as identified with Germania which later became confused with Germany in later centuries. However,

"Germani denotes Cimeria rather than Germany ... In ancient Assyrian, the Cimerians were indeed known as the Gimerrai, cognate to Gomer ... The Cimmerians were seen as originally having been a Nordic people ... Some sources identify them with the Cimbri of Jutland (around Denmark), a nation of Teutonized Celts".979


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975. Broek & Weber 1968:83; see too Taylor 1937:216

976. Sayce 1928:71; See Wiseman 1973:165

977. Custance 1975:83

978. Douglas 1972:481

979. Kaplan 1981:21


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Whilst traditions of the Middle Ages claimed that Gomer is today in central Europe, nothing can be further from the truth. Gomer, as we shall shortly see, went in the opposite direction. Some of his descendants became known as Cimmerians. Sure, some nations who moved into Europe have similar names due to moving through the same geographic region and it is not beyond reason that several nations became known as Cimmerian (see Hosea 1:2-4). But the eastern Cimmerians (or Kimmeri or Khimeri) moved into Asia, not Europe. Japheth was the father of the yellow and olive-skinned peoples, not the fair-skinned northern Europeans.

However, it is not beyond the realm of possibility that there was a western and an eastern mutation of Gomer which, together with a few Edomites, may dwell amongst the Bavarians to this day. Yair Davidy of Israel in his very useful book Ephraim, has provided information on this possibility. If so, such a group would qualify in the low percentage of Bavarian inhabitants.

To continue: the Cimmerians (or one of their branches) met up in Russia with the Tibarenians (Tubal) and Mushki (Meshech)980. Other branches journeyed through central Asia, through China981 and into south-east Asia. Gomer gave rise to the Siamese, Burmese, Indonesians, Filipinos, Vietnamese, Laotians and Cambodians who all have the same sub-racial anthropological classifications. The Indonesians for instance have the same characteristics as the Malays, although a few have Arabic-like features due to contacts with Arab traders over the centuries.982 There are today, about 300 different ethnic goups in Indonesia and over 250 distinct languages, even though they, in the main, descend from the same ethnic fountainhead.983 The Cambodians' real name is the Khmer which is very likely derived from Gomer. Similarly, one of the regions of Burma is known as Khemarata. Also, Kamara was the original name of Sumatra and a region in Sumatra is known as Kampar. We also find the area of Kemarat in Thailand and the Gimaras island in the Philippines. Given the aforementioned, it is highly likely, that these place and ethnic names are ultimately traceable back to Gomer. While it is impossible to prove, it is most likely and should be included in our list of strong probabilities.

Ashkenaz

Ashkenaz was called Asguza by Sargon of Assyria and Askanios by Homer984. Where are the Asguza and Askanios? It's imperative that we know, for the prophecies of the Bible reveal the future course of world events. We have to know where these nations are to understand the prophecies. In Jeremiah, the Medes and her allies are shown to be coming against modern Babylon:

"prepare the nations against her, call together against her the Kingdoms of Ararat, Minni and Ashchenaz ... prepare against her the nations with the Kings of the Medes" (Jer 51:27-28).

Today the Georgians, Ossettes, Armenians and others occupy the region near Ararat. We all know that. But where are the Medes, Babylonians and descendants of Ashkenaz whom the Assyrians called Ashguza or Ishkuzai?

Lake Ascenius and the neighbouring people of Askaeni refer to him, as do Lake Ascenia in Bithnyia and a Lake of a similar name in Phrygia.985 The mountains south of the Caspian Sea, separating the

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980. Wiseman, 1955:17

981. Karnow 1964:29

982. Peacock 1973: 4-5

983. McVey 1967: 24

984. Gayre 1973:55; Custance 1975:85; Childe 1926: 38

985. Custance 1975:86


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Bactrians from the Saki was known as the Ascanimian Mountains. Strabo calls the people saki, who invaded Bactria986. These were a nation of Scyths. Several nations were known as Scythians; at least one European race, and at least two Asiatic races987. In fact, many of the Scythians which came against Assyria were Mongoloid.988


The Ashkenazic Scythians migrated via the Caucasus into southern Russia, where Herodotus called them Skythai989. Others called the Scyths Ashguzai990 or Skuthai. It may be that Tashkent, the capital of Turkestan and the area of Tashkurghan and the areas and towns of Askabad, Askhap and Kashkai may be derivatives of Ashkenaz. Many of these Scyths poured back into the Middle East and helped the Babylonians and Medes finally crush the Assyrians in 612 BC. There in Asia Minor the name Sakhiz preserves the name of the Saka Scyths, similarly Crimea or Krim pressures that of the Cimmerians991. A drink of these Scythians was translated by Herodotus into Greek aschy or Asky992. Where did some of these Scythians finally migrate to? Yamauchi, discussing frozen tombs, says they were



"... located in the Altai Mountains of southern Siberia, just north of the western  boundary of the Republic ... the tombs contained the skeletons of Mongoloids,  reveal a culture closely related to the Scythians"993



The Shamanist peoples of Siberia still practice the same rites of healing, divination and death as the Scythians did994. And the Turkmenian nomads on the northern borders of Afghanistan perpetuate the exact way of life which a branch of these Scythians led.995 (In Afghanistan we find the Ashkun River). There is some confusion in the ranks of the historians and anthropologists. Some feel that the south-east Asians come through India, while others feel that they came from Central Asia. Ferrand feels that they originate in Central Asia (Scythian country), while Callenfels goes so far as to specify the Altai Mountains bordering Russia, China and Mongolia. They were apparently driven out by the Chinese into the valleys of the Iravathy, Meenam, Mekong and Salveen Rivers. Bishop wrote that the Mon-Khmer stock originated in Central Asia and that the Tibeto-Burman group had

"ancient times extended over much of north-western China, and remnants of them still exist"996


The Burmese specifically are classified as part of the Tibeto-Burman group which also incorporates peoples scattered in south-west China, Assam, Nepal and parts of northern India. Their language is most closely related to the Lo-lo or Yi of southern China and those of the ancient His-hsia kingdom which ruled Kanus and parts of Mongolia. It is here, to the north west of China, that historians and linguists have been able to trace the origin of the Burmese, utilising historical records and inscriptional remains of their language in their former lands.


Schmidt, however, connects them with the Munda and Khasi of eastern India, basing his assumptions on various philological resemblances. Thus he places their homeland in north-east India997. It would


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986. ibid: quoting Strabo 1:1:10; 1:111:21; XI:VIII:4

987. See Coon 1948:196

988. The Cambridge Ancient History, vol 3: 195

989. Douglas 1972:96

990. Wiseman 1955:18; Maspero 1900: 343

991. Burney 1971:168

992. Hoeh 1969 vol 1:36

993. Yamauchi 1982:112

994. The World's Last Mysteries 1977: 226

995. ibid:222

996. Bishop 1942:7-7


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appear that some Ashkenazic Scythians or Saka with certain Austronesian blacks may have migrated across Northern India and into Southern Asia. Others, possibly the majority, came through central Asia. All we do know is that the Khmers' culture is from India; the Tibeto-Burmese group came out of China; and the Thais' origin is obscure.

The Tibeto-Burmese group were originally in Central Asia for it has been discovered, amongst other things, that their gods appear to be of central Asian and Scythian origin998. Of the Scythian hordes which invaded north-west India, perhaps the Achakzai Pathan of northern Baluchistan are partly derived from them (see the chapter on The Roots of the Turkic and Arab Peoples). After descending from southern China into south-east Asia certain dark brown Mongoloid tribes stayed behind999. One such tribe today in southern China is the Black Lolo or Lulu. Researcher Buxton believes that they came through Turkestan (Scythian country) into China1000 Anciently in the Middle East, just northeast of the Zagros Mountains in Iran, dwelt a tribe called the Lullu or Lullubi which may have been Mongoloids. Huxley writes that the Chinese Lulu have curiously always had horses like the Iranians1001unlike the surrounding peoples. We should also note here that a few of these southern Chinese/south/east Asia strain in Japan1002 (for further information refer to the chapter on Chinese/south-east Asian strain are in Japan Dodanim and Tarshish). Note the following:


"The Japanese, according to their tradition, were led to their isles by a symbolic three-legged sun-crow [type of swastika sun-symbol]. In Pamphylia and Lycia, in Scythian dominated Asia Minor, coins have been found which bear the rare figures of three-legged birds in various forms”1003

Some descendants of Ashkenaz may be found today in Japan. The name of these Scythians may be preserved in Japan in the following names:


* Sakai (near Osaka)

* Saeki 

* Sakaiminato 

* Sakata

* Sakishima (Gunto Island) 

* Sakurai.

In Russia, the following names may also preserve a memory of some of the Scythian tribes:


* Sakhalin Island (near Japan)

* Sakiai (in Lithuania - but named after the White Scyths?)

* Sakmara River (in southern Urals, near Kazakhstan)

* Sukhinichi (west of Moscow)

* Sukhona River (east of Moscow)

* Sukhoylog (Urals)

* Suksun (Urals).


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997. Kalyanaraman 1969 vol 2:170-72

998. ibid:93

999. Huxley 1974:159; Langerl968:56

1000. Buxton 1925:156

1001. Huxley 1974:161

1002. Brinkley 1903:38

1003. Hoeh 1969 vol 1:344


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And in North Korea we have Sakchu. All across Asia, the name is preserved. What were the Scythians known as in Western Asia?: Saka, Caka or Sakai.1004

They settled for a time in south-east Asia, bringing the name Sak or Suk with them. I mentioned earlier how Jerome and Josephus called certain of the Scythians Sukuthai and in this chapter how Herodotus called them Sky thai. I mentioned also the Altai Mountains where experts trace back the south-east Asians to. Is it any coincidence that one nation of this region is called Thailand (land of the Thais or free)? And their earliest capital was Sukhotaai (Siak)? It was known as Siam or Sien-lo formed by the junction of Sien and Lo-lo. The whole of the Malaysian peninsula was a tributary to this state in former times.

In summary, the brown Mongoloids of south-east Asia, Bhutan, Nepal, Tibet, Burma, Vietnam, Laos1005, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia and parts of southern China and a few of the population of Japan are descendants of Ashkenaz.

"Togarmah of the North Quarters" (Ezek 38:6)

The above quote is from a famous prophecy found in the book of Ezekiel. Wherever Togarmah is to be found today, it is to the north of the Middle East. Hundreds of years after the flood of Noah. The Assyrians called them the Til-garimmu (Tegarama in Hittite) who lived on the border with Tabal1006. Other names for this people were Tegaram a Tilgarimma, Trocmi and Trogmades.

The Tegarma or Tegarama migrated from Cappadocia into Armenia1007, and may have given their name to that district (the Armenians even claimed descent from them and undoubtedly are in part). From there they moved into Turcoman territory (Turkistan) a possible derivation of Tegarama. In Turkistan, among the tablelands of Pamir, rose a great mount, Tagharma. The Septuagint form is Thorgama. Milner discusses the trip to the deserts of Turkistan by Dr. Joseph Woolf, a missionary. Woolf recorded his experience in Travels and Adventures. He mentions how he came among a people claiming to be descendants of Japheth and calling themselves Togarmah. These were the Mongoloid peoples of the eastern division of the Turkic peoples of central Asia.1008

A book containing old Hebrew traditions, the Book ofJasher, lists Bulgar, Tarki and Ongal amongst the descendants of Togarmah.

Amongst the sign-posts indicating where Togarmah settled we find:

* Tagarchi in eastern Turkestan

* Tigranoama in eastern Turkey

* the city of Tagarma in western China

* Taganrog, Tigeretsk Mountain, Togur town, Turgai province and

* Turgins, a town in Siberia

* many Uighur peoples may be a derivative of Togarmah


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1004. Rapson 1914;136-37, 202

1005. It may be of interest that the Greek for "people" is Lao and the nation of Laos means "people"!

1006. Douglas 1972:1285

1007. Bullingercl890:1144

1008. Milner 1941:46


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Tradition speaks in terms of a certain son of Japheth known as Tork. He in turn had a son Taunak Chan. He was in turn succeeded by Jelza Khan, Dibbakui Khan, Kajuk Khan and Ilingeh (or Alanza) Khan. Ilingeh Khan in turn had two sons: Tatar Khan - progenitor of the Tartars; and Mongul Khan - progenitor of some of the Mongols or Moghuls.1009 This is of course tradition, and whether it represents knowledge of a son of Japheth not recorded in scripture or is another name for Togarmah, one cannot be certain. Yet it would be good guess to accept the second idea as the most appropriate and obvious given that it fits neatly into the overall anthropological and historical schema.

One should realise that some of the Turks derive from Togarmah (those in the east) and some from Edom (those in the west). There has, however, been some mixing between the descendants of Edom and Togarmah in Central Asia which is quite easy to perceive (refer to the chapter on Roots of the Turkic and Arabic Peoples).

Moses of Chorene, who wrote the history of the Armenians c450AD, claimed that their progenitor was none other than Thargamas and they called themselves the "House of Thorgom". It may be that the name Armenia derives from Togarmah. So, some of the descendants of Togarmah dwell in Armenia to this very day.

The golden-skinned Mongols of Mongolia and Inner Mongolia, mixed to a degree, with the descendants of Togarmah and Edom (some Turkics actually claim literal descent from Togarmah1010). A few others appear to be in Siberia including the Dolgans and the Yakuts1011. There we have the populous nations of central, east and south-east Asia traced back to their origins.


GENESIS CHRONOLOGY

ACCORDING TO THE MIAO PEOPLE OF SOUTH CHINA


by Bernard E. Northrup Th.D.


The Creation


On the day God created the heavens and earth, On that day He opened the gateway of light. In the earth then He made heaps of earth and of stone. In the sky He made bodies, the sun and the moon. In the earth He created the hawk and the kite. In the water created the lobster and fish. In the wilderness made He the tiger and bear, made verdure to cover the mountains, made forest extend with the ranges, made the light green cane, made the rank bamboo.


[NOPE, WRONG ON WHEN THE SUN, MOON, AND UNIVERSE MADE—— COULD  HAVE  BEEN  MILLIONS  OF  YEARS  BEFORE  GENESIS  CHAPTER  ONE  -  Keith Hunt]


The Creation Of Man


On the earth He created a man from the dirt. Of the man thus created, a woman He formed. Then THE PATRIARCH DIRT MAN made a balance of stones, Estimated the weight of the earth to the bottom, Calculated the bulk of the heavenly bodies And pondered the ways of the Deity, God. THE PATRIARCH DIRT MAN begat PATRIARCH SE-TEH. THE PATRIARCH SE-TEH begat a son LUSU And LUSU had GEHLO and he begat LAMA. THE PATRIARCH LAMA begat the man NUAH. His wife was THE MATRIARCH GAW BO-LU-EN. Their sons were LO HAN, LO SHEN and JAH-HU. So the earth began filling with tribes and with families. Creation was shared by the clans and the peoples.


[WELL  AS  THEY  HAD  HANDED  DOWN,  BUT  THEY  WERE  NOT  IN  THE  TRUE  LIGHT  BY  A  LONG  SHOT  -  Keith Hunt]


The World Wicked


These did not God's will nor returned His affection but fought with each other defying the Godhead. Their leaders shook fists in the face of the Mighty. Then the earth was convulsed to the depth of three strata, Rendering the air to the uttermost heaven. God's anger arose till His being was changed; His wrath flaring up


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Kachur 1972:9-10

Koestler 1976:160

Jochelson 1928: map "Ethnographic map of Asiatic Russia" at the front of his book


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filled His eyes and His face until He must come and demolish humanity, come and destroy a whole world full of people.

[NOPE  NOT  ALL  PEOPLE  ALL  OVER  THE  EARTH,  JUST  THE  HUB  WHERE  NOAH  LIVED;  IT  WAS  NOT  A  GLOBAL  FLOOD,  AS  PROVED  IN   OTHER  STUDIES  ON  THIS  WEBSITE  -  Keith Hunt]


The Flood


So it poured forty days in sheets and in torrents, Then fifty-five days of misting and drizzle. The waters surmounted the mountains and ranges. The deluge ascending leapt valley and hollow, An earth with no earth upon which to take refuge! A world with no foothold where one might subsist! The people were baffled, impotent and ruined, Despairing, horror stricken, diminished and finished. But THE PATRIARCH NUAH was righteous, THE MATRIARCH GAW BO-LU-EN upright, Built a boat very wide, made a ship very vast. Their household entire got aboard and were floated, The family complete rode the deluge in safety. The animals with him were female and male. The birds went along and were mated in pairs. When the time was fulfilled, God commanded the waters. The day had arrived, the flood waters receded. Then NUAH liberated a dove from their refuge, Sent a bird to go forth and bring again tidings. The flood had gone down into lake and to ocean; The mud was confined to the pools and the hollows. There was land once again where a man might reside. There was a place on the earth now to rear habitations. Buffalo then were brought, An oblation to God, Fatter cattle became sacrifice to the Mighty. The Divine One then gave them His blessing; Their God then bestowed His good graces.


[THE  BASICS  ONLY—— SURE  THERE  WAS  A  FLOOD  IN  NOAH’S  DAY  BUT  IOT  WAS  NOT  ALL  OVER  THE  EARTH  -  Keith Hunt]


Babel


LO-HAN then begat CU-SAH AND MESAY. LO-SHAN BEGAT ELAN AND NGASHUR. Their offspring begotten became tribes and peoples; Their descendants established encampments and cities. Their singing was all with the same tunes and music; Their speaking was all with the same words and language. Then they said: "Let us build us a very big city; Let us raise unto heaven a very high tower. This was wrong, but they reached this decision; Not right, but they rashly persisted. God struck at them then, changed their language and accent. Descending in wrath, He confused tones and voices. One's speech to the others who heard him no meaning; He's speaking in words, but they can't understand him. So the city they built was never completed; The tower they wrought has to stand thus unfinished. In despair then they separate under all heaven, They part from each other the globe to encircle; (lit. "They parted went live encircle world ball") They arrive at six corners and speak the six languages.


[THEY  HAD  THAT  BASICALLY  CORRECT  -  Keith Hunt]


Miao Genealogy


THE PATRIARCH JAH-HU got the center of nations. The son he begat was THE PATRIARCH GO-MEN Who took him a wife called THE MATRIARCH GO- YONG. Their grandson and his wife both took the name TUTAN. Their descendants are given in order as follows: PATRIARCH GAWNDAN MEW-WAN, MATRIARCH CAWDAN MEW-JEW, PATRIARCH JENKU DAWVU, MATRIARCH JENEO BOJE; PATRIARCH GANGEN NEWANT (wife not given); PATRIARCH SEAGEWENG, MATRIARCH MAW GUEH. Their children, eleven in number, was each the head of a family. Five branches became THE MIAO NATION. Six families joined with THE CHINESE.


[PROBABLY  HAD  SOME  MIGRATION  HISTORY  CORRECT  - Keith Hunt]


Note:


I received the above from Mr. James R. Honeyman of Shatter, California, October, 1990. He received it from the wife of the young man named Edgar Truax who had ministered in south China (near the Laotian border?) among the Miao people from whom the material came. After the Communists took over China, he worked in Laos. Truax reported that at funerals and weddings the Miao people recited the entire ancestry of the deceased or of the married all the way back to Adam. Mr. Truax has died only recently. Bernard E. Northrup Th.D. January 3, 1997


[be  very  surprised  if  that  is  true; Jewish genealogy is  not  nicely  formed out,  often  generations  are  summed  out;  in  Jew chronology you can be a son  of…. And it includes  you  are  the  great, great, great grandsome——others missed  out.   Keith Hunt].


The latest is the America  people  go back  to  10  years  and  more


SUGGESTED READING


Boulger,DC(1878) The History of China. W. Thacker & Co, London.



Brinkley, F (1903) Japan and China, (vol 1). TC & EC Jack, London.



Hales, R (1983) "Archaeology, The Bible and The Post-Flood Origins of Chinese History",  CSSH Quarterly. Vol vi, no 2, Winter.


Karnow, S (1964) South-East Asia. Time-Life Books.



Milner, W (1941) The Russian Chapters ofEzekiel. Destiny Publishers, Mass. First

published 1923.


Muraoka, K (1993)
"The Mongoloids surrounding the Pacific Basin", Pacific Friend. July, vol 21, no 3:2-9.


Sinclair, K (1987) The Forgotten Tribes of China. Child & Associates.


Tien, K K (1950) Genesis and the Chinese. Hong Kong. Reprinted by Leaves of Autumn

Books 1994.


Yamauchi, E (1982) Foes From the Northern Frontier. Baker Book House, Michigan.